>> Taking a stand against capitalism by taking a nap.

That's the message of the woman known as the Knapp Bishop, Chicago native Tricia Hersey founded the Nap Ministry in 2016 advocating that rest is about more than just refueling for the next day's work.

But for resistance, the activist artist and author of 2 books is back in her home town to spread the word this Juneteenth.

Joining us now is the net bishop herself.

Tricia Hersey honored to have you here because I know you protective of your time.

so excited to be here.

Thank you for having We're glad to have you so your first of 4 tenants of the Nap Ministry is that rest is a form of resistance because it disrupts and pushes back against capitalism and white supremacy while Florida to lot got down for us, you know, I think when I first started the work people.

>> What I what does have to do?

A white supremacy with his maps and the on labor and our lack of rest and sleep deprivation happened.

Do with capitalism.

Saw hoping to connect the dots by looking at his firm historical examination of what capitalism where it was founded.

It was founded on plantations on the backs of enslaved Africans.

And so the same engine, a dry droll that they drove all the main, the body, the commodification of black bodies working 20 hours, the agricultural chattel, slavery is the same engine that is driving capitalism today that has people working so 3, 4 jobs profit over people.

They still can't pay rent.

And so all of these things about how we see ourselves, our our bodies, what our bodies hold him, what our bodies are here to do around the idea of labor really is about that first on Tenet.

People really are like, I don't understand why I'm so exhausted.

light.

You're moving at a pace that's on sustainable capitalism demands this time this out put that is really sustainable, exhausted and not always necessarily feeling like they're getting a head because isn't that sort of like, you know, in American Montrezl that, you know work hard and you can achieve it all.

Yes, that is the one of the many lies we've info.

So one of the many things that have been >> kind of socialize and to believe that we can work our way to freedom that we can work our way into the greatness of everything.

People who are poor work the most of everyone.

So if that really was the scale of it will be a different view.

I know people.

>> My father talk about in my first book who worked himself into an early grave.

I think about people to 3 jobs.

I just read article yesterday.

Most people, if you're working $80,000 a year, you still can't afford to act to live anywhere in the United States.

That was just an article out yesterday.

So this idea of pushing in going thinking that you're worth tied to how much that you can get done.

So is for examination is awareness and opening its the connecting of the dots of the people really understand what is really happening to us with sleep deprivation and with our idea of what we in this whole hustle and grind culture, though, it's not just unique to black America right?

Right.

White Americans can fall victim to this as well as a lonely.

>> You know, this work is global work.

It's really work.

That is human rights work.

It's looking at the idea of who we are.

What we are indeed seeing ourselves.

As for divine humans, no matter how many jobs we work, no matter how many things we accomplished a matter how much money we make.

>> Is pulling veil over our eyes so that we can really see ourselves for the true nature of who we are.

Everyone is suffering under violence and terror of capitalism in white supremacy.

Even why people themselves are suffering deeply from the spiritual deficit becomes white supremacy, ideology, capitalism pushing the profit over people do anything to make money.

It's all those things are really what is really driving the So in your first book, rest is resistance.

A manifesto you mentioned, you know, all the commonly used sayings that celebrate, you know, the hustle and grind culture.

Thinking of the early Bird gets the worm might get up early.

Go to work.

I'll sleep when I'm black households.

Get a lot of people.

You know, we're used to hearing you have work twice as hard to get justice far half as far I was told that, we all and sometimes by her teachers as well.

So how do how do we begin to sort step away from what we have been conditions do?

>> Without fear of missing out on opportunities are being deemed God forbid, lazy or, you know, together yet.

I think that's such an important question.

Not get this question so many times.

Everyone wants to know like love what you're saying but have to work in Israel.

That's really the point of it.

All.

I'm really asking us to really just began to see clearly what is happening.

I don't believe that we can stop working at any time.

I don't believe me as a black woman could ever not the land around leisurely all the time.

Like I have bills saying what everyone else as we all are living in the system, demands that we have output.

What I'm asking people is that they begin to see themselves.

It's not simply just on Earth to work that their labor does is not attached to who they are and how the work of who they are.

You know, this culturally to just ahead ourselves to not see worth of who we are just simply by being alive, that we have to be able connect the dots between I have these accomplishments.

I have this much in the bank.

I've done these mean things.

And now I'm OK now.

I'm beautiful.

Now.

enough.

And I'm really asking people to say that you are enough right now that you can begin to slow down so yourself as human that you can resist the lie, that you are a machine that you can work 20 hours, 24 hours that you need So that means the monetize, every single hobby in your life that you can't have leisure, that there isn't space for you to breathe in to be that you can't connect.

And so this is really healing work.

West begins up live.

What needs to be healed?

What are the things that we've been told that have calls us to not see ourselves as whole humans.

You you mentioned that rest isn't just napping, you're the net bishop.

you talk about your grandmother, especially and how that woman she got her arrested now.

But talk about other ways that people can rest enough.

In my book, talk about Re-imagining rest light.

This idea that we're in this culture to culture that demands so much from us, though, in a cautious technologically moving, we're going we're going to have to re imagine where resting is.

It can't just be going away.

Closing the door our children, leave us alone, put themselves under a blanket.

It never coming out not being in a community with each other.

We're really going to have to begin to re.

Imagine arresting is being something simply that slows you down enough that we can make your mind and body a slow wall, yoga, meditation, prayer.

And we're looking at something.

Yeah, the events that as well, need a dream is a big really deep on the idea of daydreaming in just so.

Just be I think about my mother, Jane, every morning, taking her 15 minutes to put her jergens lotion on, you know, like even not rushing out the house, not answering the phone call immediately their infinite ways to slow down 2 arrests to connect to detox from social media feel in be surely we are outside of just labor all side of just getting things done.

You also talk about the importance of rest so that you can dream because when you're busy all the time, there's no time for your brain to just roam freely.

No time.

What's the benefit of of dreaming?

Daydreaming is really, really want to get into the science.

The neural science of sleep tells when we sleep for more than 6 hours.

More than 8 hours, a brain allows us to imagine.

he'll there moments where we can re boost our memory.

People who are creative really need time to just sit in dream and imagine.

And these have been taken from us because we've been told it's lazy.

You're wasting time, stop daydreaming, but dream itself.

When we're in a full dream cycle does so much for organs for our mental health and what the mental health crisis that is happening there on our culture, slowing down injury me in resting in danger.

Really?

It's going to be the